Our Golden male line is yDNA type: R1b R-M269 R-U106 R-Z405 R-DF98 R-S18823 R-FGC20605 R-FGC20581 R-BY103979 as of April 2022.
We have two matches with Grandfather R-BY103979. One lives outside of Gothenberg, Sweden. There is no known genealogy for this match. I do have contact info for this match. No response has been received to enquiries about their genealogy.
The second R-BY103979 match lives in Nebraska, USA, and descends from Johann Hinrich Meyer, b1780 d1820 at Oldenburg, Germany. FamilyTreeDNA Kit #B835407. A Y700 test underway as of April 2022 may reveal additional info. I have contact info and am in regular contact with this match. Meyer family members migrated to Hooper, Nebraska in the 1860s.
Our yDNA SNP history could be updated to within the last 300 years if a male Golden from the line of Abraham, Isaac, Samuel or Thomas Golden took the Y700 test. FamilyTreeDNA’s BIG Y700 test can now identify grandfathers by their SNPs with a time gap of approximately 75 years to within the last several hundred years. Info about benefits of what can be learned from the Y700 test: https://www.familytreemagazine.com/dna/big-y-700/
Golden male yDNA is R-U106 R-Z405 R-DF98 R-S18823 R-FGC20605 R-FGC20581 R-BY103979.
This line spread from the Benelux/Frisia area to what is now the United Kingdom and to Norway and Sweden, as well as much of northern Germany and Poland.
I use the term ‘Germanic’ because Denmark and the Benelux do not consider themselves ‘German’, yet they share yDNA that has origin in what is modern Germany.
Grandfathers and origin according to SNP:
- R-Z405 … born about 4400 years ago in the modern Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg) and Frisia area (northwest Germanic)
- R-DF98 … born about 4100 years ago, lived in the same region
- R-S18823 … born shortly after R-DF98, probably within 1-3 generations
- R-FGC20605 … born about 2700 years ago
- R-FGC20581 … born about 2500 years ago
- R-BY103979 … born about 1400 years ago – Anglo-Saxon settlement of England
Our male line yDNA has existed over the last 4000+ years in the Benelux region. We know that DF98 spread northward into Scandinavia, eastward into northern Germany, and westward into the English Isles.
Using SNP analysis, we can determine branches and timelines of descent. For example, we know that we are distant kin to ‘Niall of the Nine Hostages‘ northwestern male Irish (R-M222, aka the Irish Modal Haplotype). History tells us that the reason for so many northwestern Irish males being related is due to the Niall kingdom of the 4th or 5th centuries — this provides a time reference. SNPs are cumulative across time. Niall Irish/R-M222 have our SNPs (DF98 et al) but we do not have the unique aspects that make Niall descendants easily recognizable.
R-M222 and evolution of DNA understanding as more data collected: Before 2019 there were numerous analyses that attributed R-M222 to being descendants of the Niall family itself. It is now believed that a much older grandfather in this area of Ireland is responsible for so many carrying SNP R-M222. Howard, W.E. and McLaughlin, J.D., 2011. “A dated phylogenetic tree of M222 SNP haplotypes: exploring the DNA of Irish and Scottish surnames and possible ties to Niall and the Uí Néill … Continue reading
For now (2022), our most recent shared yDNA SNP is R-BY103979. Our grandfather R-BY103979 was probably born after 600 AD/CE and before 1100. Further Y700 testing by other kindred male lines will eventually identify a better timeline.
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|↑1||I do have contact info for this match. No response has been received to enquiries about their genealogy.|
|↑2||FamilyTreeDNA Kit #B835407. A Y700 test underway as of April 2022 may reveal additional info. I have contact info and am in regular contact with this match.|
|↑3||Info about benefits of what can be learned from the Y700 test: https://www.familytreemagazine.com/dna/big-y-700/|
|↑4||Howard, W.E. and McLaughlin, J.D., 2011. “A dated phylogenetic tree of M222 SNP haplotypes: exploring the DNA of Irish and Scottish surnames and possible ties to Niall and the Uí Néill kindred”, Familia: Ulster Genealogical Review, 27, 34.|