Eleanor Golden, born about 1745 — Two Eleanor Goldens Coexist

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A Probable History of the Golden Family
of Newberry, South Carolina Since 1761
Updated 2024.01.01

 

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Warren family members have within their genealogies that Eleanor “Nelly” Golden married into their family in 1762 while in the Amelia County area, Virginia, which is southwest of Richmond, Virginia.

>> 1802 — There is documentary evidence for there being an Eleanor Warren and she existed at the same time and place as our own Nelly Golden, who is named in a legal document as being Eleanor Golden. They knew each other. Our Eleanor ‘Nelly’ Golden was witness to the 1802 last will and testament of Charles Warren (born before 1781-1802) naming Eleanor Warren as his mother and witnessed by Eleanor Golden. ^[1]LWT recorded in Edgefield County Book #22, pg 252-253. Witnesses Elenor Golden and William DeLoach. Recorded by Russell Wilson JP, 21 Oct 1802.

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The Warren family’s Eleanor “Nelly” Golden, was born before 1755 (Eleanor Warren is age 45+ in 1800 census). ^[2]FindaGrave Memorial for William Warren, 1738-1807, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210682252/william-warren

It is claimed that Eleanor ‘Nelly’ (Golden) Warren passed away 25 Oct 1809 at Clouds Creek, Edgefield County, South Carolina.

• Parents: Unknown. Possibilities:

~~~ Thomas Golden could be a father or brother or just a coincidental person named ‘Golden’, even though a Nelly Golden would play an important role later within our Golden family (1810 census). There is also an 1802 legal transaction in which (our) Nelly, name Eleanor Golden was witness to Eleanor  Golden Warren being named as beneficiary in her son Charles’ LWT. ^[3]LWT recorded in Edgefield County Book #22, pg 252-253. Witnesses Elenor Golden and William DeLoach. Recorded by Russell Wilson JP, 21 Oct 1802.

~~~ Several Warren genealogies claim Eleanor Golden‘s father was Anthony R Golden (does NOT appear to exist) and that he lived 1710-aft 1760, being born in Spartanburg, South Carolina. This seems inconsistent if the Warren and Golden marriage was in Virginia, and they then came to South Carolina. Regardless, have not found any reference to any Anthony R. Golden or the existence of any Anthony Golden for the timeframe of 1710-1760 in the Carolinas, Georgia or Virginia.

Spartanburg did not exist in any form of settlement between 1710-1760. It was Cherokee territory through 1753. Spartanburg was formed in 1785 and named after the local ‘Spartan Regiment’ of militia that fought during the Revolutionary War.  ^[4]Wikipedia, Spartanburg, South Carolina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartanburg,_South_Carolina Curiously, Spartanburg did have a well known resident: Anthony Foster Golding, often referred to as Anthony F. Golden. Anthony Foster Golding lived from 1791-1875, and was the son of Reuben Golding, 1741–1835, and Margaret Peggy Griffin, 1761–1837.

• Birth: About 1745, probably in Virginia. No claim of birth place is made.
• Death:
  ~~~ 25 Oct 1809 at Clouds Creek, Edgefield County, South Carolina ^[5]FindaGrave Memorial for William Warren, 1738-1807, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/210682252/william-warren No documentary reference can be found of her death.
  ~~~ 25 OCT 1811: An online genealogy claims a different post-1810 date: 25 OCT 1811 at Clouds Creek, Edgefield, SC (Now, Saluda, SC) ^[6]See Working Notes for specific genealogy.
  ~~~ Can find no documentation for either death date. The 1811 date is probably more accurate due to a piece of property being sold in 1812 by Ellender Golden.
• Spouse: William Warren, 1738-1807.
• Children:
  ~~~ These three children are considered core to the Warren-Golden family: William Jr., Eleanor Ellen & John Charles Warren. Numerous Warren genealogies exist online and have conflicting lists of children.
  ~~~ (John) Charles Warren, bef 1781-1802: left a last will and testament in 1802 naming Eleanor Warren as his mother and witnessed by Eleanor Golden. ^[7]LWT recorded in Edgefield County Book #22, pg 252-253. Witnesses Elenor Golden and William DeLoach. Recorded by Russell Wilson JP, 21 Oct 1802. This is the only pre-1800 Edgefield region Warren that can prove parentage of any kind.
• Military: N/A.
• Working Notes: See this profile for additional known info. Yes/Admin.
• A Last Will and Testament and/or Probate documentation exists: No. None believed to exist, even if one was created in the past. ^[8]Years refer to the county record books. There are wills for William Golden (1840-1858, probably a Golding) and a variety of Goldings: Polly Golding (1840-1858); Reuben Golding (1823-1840); Robert … Continue reading

Per Find-a-Grave: 

William Warren was born about 1738 in St Anne’s Parish, Goochland, VA (area became Albemarle, VA).

He wed Eleanor “Nelly” Golden about 1762 in Lexington Parish, Amherst, VA. It is believed they had 3 known children; William Warren Jr., Eleanor Ellen (Ellender) Warren & John Charles Warren.

1785, Edgefield, SC – William Warren received a land grant.

About 1798 in Clouds Creek , Edgefield, SC they divorced. They were divorced prior to 1800, he remarried, she did not.

He married Helena LNU about 1799 in Clouds Creek, Edgefield, SC.

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Was Eleanor ‘Nelly’ Golden divorced from William Warren in 1798?  If so, where did she go? Can find no reference for that.

An Elenor Warren was living as head-of-household in 1800 (Edgefield, SC) with three members in the household. She would have been age 26 (1774) to 44 (1756) within the category of female age 26 through 44. Within the household was a male age under 10 (1790-1799) and a male age 10-15 (1785-1790). ^[9]1800; Census Place: Edgefield, South Carolina; Series: M32; Roll: 47; Page: 157; Image: 303; Family History Library Film: 181422

This could not have been the Eleanor Golden that married in 1762. She should have been approximately age 55 in 1800, listed in the category of age 45+.

This could have been Eleanor “Ellender” Warren, Eleanor and William Warren‘s daughter, born 1769. She did not marry until 1802 (Jonathan Gregory Kirkland), so it is unclear who the young boys were, possibly brothers.

1800 Census: Elenor Warren lived four households away from John Warren in the census. John was her probable brother.

1810 Census: A Nelly Warren appears, living next to Charles Warren and Gilford Ethridge (sic, Etheridges are Golden kin, possibly even grandparents).^[10]1810; Census Place: Edgefield, South Carolina; Roll: 62; Page: 94; Image: 00082; Family History Library Film: 0181421  Just 13 more census homesites over lived the ‘Plymail’ (Plymale) family — Abraham Golden, 1790-1870, would later marry Barbara Plymale, 1810–1851.

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? Birth of Eleanor Golden in Virginia? There was an Elinor Golding born 10 Jan 1734 and christened 2 Feb 1734 at Charles Church of Charles Parish, York, Virginia, to John and Elizabeth Golding. ^[11]”Virginia Births and Christenings, 1584-1917″, database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VR5B-GCJ There are no other Eleanor (Elenor, Elinor, etc.) Goldens or Goldings born in Virginia in the 1700s.

? 1762 Marriage in Amherst County?  The Warren family is present in a wide variety of records in Virginia, to include James Warren, claimed father of (Charles) William Warren. There is no marriage record for a Charles or William Warren in any county of Virginia. Does not mean that it did not happen. Such records could be spotty. Perhaps there is a family Bible with this information.

? 1798 Divorce of William Warren and Eleanor Golden in South Carolina? No record found. Does not mean that it did not happen. ^[12]Legal records for this time period generally exist. No record found in the South Carolina Archives Online https://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/ … Elenor Warren being listed as head-of-household in … Continue reading

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Coincidence of Name and DNA?

Warren Golden, 1771 VA – 1846 OH, an atDNA match exists with this line. ^[13]DNA match with a descendant of  Warren Golden, 1771-1846, is between a grandson, Larry Golden, and a grandson descendant of William and Nelly: William Golden, b1956. Any kinship relationship to early mid-1700s Warren and Golden family interaction is unknown. Certainly the Warren Golden lines exists at the right place and time to be related to our Goldens. More research needed.

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