Edward Hall Golden, 1869-1927, Indiana and Kentucky

Disclaimer: Determination that the haplotype shown below is correct is based upon a claimed descendant relationship by the person taking the DNA test. Desired: two or more matching test results from individuals that are not closely related.


Edward Hall Golden 1869-1927Haplotype: G / G2 / G2a3b1a1a1 G-Z1991 (G-Z2022); Ancestry/Morley

Other Matching YDNA Tests: None / Not YDNA STR Tested.

— YDNA Haplotype determined using an Ancestry DNA test assessment by Morley YDNA Predictor. There are probable matching YDNA tests but this can only be confirmed by taking a test from FamilyTreeDNA, the only company that provide STR-value testing.

See comments for what SNPs G-Z1991 (G-Z2022) imply as far as lineage and origin.


Edward Hall Golden

— BIRTH 10 SEP 1869 • Illinois
— DEATH 14 OCT 1927 • Kyrock, Edmonson County, Kentucky

Married to:

Lillian Belle “Lilly or Lillie” Whalin

— BIRTH 30 MAY 1881 • Kentucky
— DEATH 26 OCT 1942 • Smith Mills, Henderson, Kentucky

Children: All children are documented as to parentage; using census or otherwise.

  • Myrtle Ellen Golden, 1900–1992
  • Roxie Della Golden, 1902–1958
  • Creighton Earl Golden, 1905–1967
  • James Tilford Golden, 1911-1970
  • William O. “Willie” Golden, 1913–1979
  • Clyde Golden, 1914–1995
  • Nello Curtis Golden, 1916–2002
  • Ercie Edna “Essie” Golden, 1921–1990



— Ancestry genealogies go further back than Edward Hall Golden, 1869–1927, but I have seen no useful documentation for his parents.

— Some genealogies list Edward Hall Golden’s parents as: John Isaac Newton Golden 1835–1872 and FNU Brown … and notes that this info comes from his death certificate. His death certificate states that his father’s name was ‘John Golden’ and his mother’s surname was ‘FNU Brown’. Their place of birth: unknown.

— There are some challenges with John Isaac Newton Golden (JING) being Edward’s father: no evidence that JING had a son named Edward, or any child for that matter, or even married. Genealogies have adopted JING and assigned him a wife with the last name of ‘Brown’ … but other than him being in the 1850 census we know nothing about him. Finding the 1870 census for Illinois listing an Edward age 1 as son of John Golden age 35 would be helpful. Both Edward and John should appear in the 1870 census, along with a mother’s name and any siblings.

—— 1870 Census does show a young infant Edward Golden living at Grandview, Edgar, Illinois born to Michael (45) and Mary (30) Golden, both born in Ireland. Their Edward has two sisters: Mary (8) and Ellen (5), born in Indiana.

— JING’s parents were supposedly: Dr. Stephen C. Golden 1811–1879 and Phebe Newton 1816–aft 1850. A Stephen age 37 (c1813) and a Phebe age 34 (c1816) do appear in the 1850 census for Bonhomme, St Louis, Missouri, and they have a son named John Golden age 15 (1835). There are also eight other siblings named: Thomas (17), John (15), Marian (12), Eliza Jane (10), George (8), Peter (5), Lucinda (4) and Phebe Ann (1). The sibling’s own family histories should cross-reference JING — I have not explored their family genealogies, if any.


About YDNA Test Results 

G2a3b1a1a1 is also known as G2 L1263, formerly G2 L21 (2012). DNA designations continue to evolve as we learn more and learn to describe branches by their unique SNP (a unique inherited genetic mutation in a grandfather) rather than describing the entire tree and branches (G2a3b1a1a1).

The ancient origin of this line appears to be in the Caucasus Mountains of modern southwestern Russia. The highest density of G2 is among the Circassian Adyghe people (80%), west of Ossetia (2012) and for G2 in general the highest population density of G2 males is modern Georgia, a country in the Caucasus region.

Descendant grandfathers would eventually have unique inheritable genetic mutations of their own, SNPs: G-Z1991 and G-Z2022. The significance of these two SNPs is that their origin is almost exclusively associated with western Europe (Germany is highest density, followed by France and Netherlands),  and about 5% of males in Ireland and England.

Within the FamilyTreeDNA G2 Unassigned Project, there are two matching test results for L1263: one is from Germany and the other lives in Pennsylvania but has a German name ‘Kauffman‘. There is a single match for G-Z2022 and it comes from England.

The above is a basic analysis. It should not be considered more than an indicator of possible heritage and family origin.

Got info? Bill Golden, Norfolk1956@gmail.com